Great American Jeep Rally

Great American Jeep Rally => Past Rally Feedback => Topic started by: Scott Daigle on October 04, 2010, 01:16:49 PM



Title: 2010 Feedback
Post by: Scott Daigle on October 04, 2010, 01:16:49 PM
Ok, lets have the skinny, good, bad or ugly... Just be respectful with your comments and remember, we're all volunteers.   
Any comets that are disrespectful to an individual will be deleted or edited.    ;)


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: Rafikie on October 04, 2010, 02:53:29 PM
Great job by all the volunteers...... DONT' EAT THE CHEESEBURGERS


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: drgonzo on October 04, 2010, 03:14:00 PM
I think overall, the event was great.  Volunteers were great.  Good event. Looking forward to it next year.  That being said, I think having one line for the rock crawl, and RTI ramp made no sense.  My friend only wanted to ramp his Jeep and was told to wait in line.  Most of the people in line were waiting for the Rock Crawl.  Luckily a good hearted volunteer let us slide in the back way to do the ramp, and then we were done.   As for the rock crawl itself, I thought it was great.  But I think there should be a time limit or maybe have 2 rock piles.  One for factory, or slightly modified rigs and 1 for the advanced.  Some people were just on there way too long because they got stuck and maybe shouldn't have been on there.  Maybe give people 3 tries and then they are off.  Or 5-10min max.  Everything else was fantastic.  Good job everybody.


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: Scott Daigle on October 04, 2010, 07:41:31 PM
^^^^All Constructive criticism and ideas. Keep them coming.

Pertaining to the rock garden area, we were limited in available area to work with do to the fairgrounds being stingy and not allowing us to use that other area we've used in the past. We also couldn't use that other gate do to the grass on the other side (parking area) being way to soft with all the rain they got in that storm on Friday. We had to adjust and adjustments last minute never seem to work. We also didn't want to stage waiting jeeps in-between the pile and the spectators, that was the big complaint last year.

We love these comments and we defiantly review them for next year. Thanks!

Oh, what was up with the cheeseburgers? I had a regular burger, it was OK... nothing to write home about, but it worked.


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: Blown7 on October 05, 2010, 05:50:01 AM


Oh, what was up with the cheeseburgers? I had a regular burger, it was OK... nothing to write home about, but it worked.

I had a Cheeseburger and a Sausage, Onion and pepper sub, both were the worst I've ever eaten at a fair, and the price was wayyy to high. Same for the drinks, 1.50 for a sample Gatorade size. I realize a profit needs to be made but a Tip Jar also??
What are these people thinking???

Softee Ice cream was good.

I overheard two vendors complaining to each other that for two days work to set up the Rally wasn't worth it.

(And this is from two of your Largest vendors.)

I asked a club about joining and they said "go online get a application" so why have their set ups?? Some booths were empty and unmanned.

Other than that, unless next year Rally has something real spectacular I don't think I'll be returning.

Watching people who have no business on the Rockpile trying to get a slightly modified Jeep over it was like watching paint dry.

You might want to try the Woodstock Fairgrounds next year as its much bigger...

And it's closer to my dealer who would have brought a half dozen vehicles. I asked about trading my SRT8 and the guy there said he couldn't do any deals at the Rally,...... so why come at all??

BTW nice meetin you Scott.


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: drgonzo on October 05, 2010, 08:29:35 AM
Woodstock Farigrounds would be great.   Tons of room there.    And right in my backyard.   :)


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: Jp90Talon on October 05, 2010, 10:24:04 AM

I had a Cheeseburger and a Sausage, Onion and pepper sub, both were the worst I've ever eaten at a fair, and the price was wayyy to high. Same for the drinks, 1.50 for a sample Gatorade size. I realize a profit needs to be made but a Tip Jar also??
What are these people thinking???
I overheard two vendors complaining to each other that for two days work to set up the Rally wasn't worth it.

Having come from a family that did a ton of special event catering I can honestley see where they were coming from. As a food vendor you really need to do a ton of buiss to even make showing up worth it. I know it is great to have a variety of foods for the crowd but IMO there were too many small vendors to make it worth it for them.  Personally  I think the best route would be to have one single vendor set up a huge tent that would have multiple lines instead of little vendors with long single lines. If you ever needed someone to be a vendor let me know .....

Watching people who have no business on the Rockpile trying to get a slightly modified Jeep over it was like watching paint dry.
Agreed!  I thought that George was going to kill some punk kids. I think next time the garden needs to be marked saying unless u have so and so you get off here and you get a time limit

You might want to try the Woodstock Fairgrounds next year as its much bigger...

And it's closer to my dealer who would have brought a half dozen vehicles. I asked about trading my SRT8 and the guy there said he couldn't do any deals at the Rally,...... so why come at all??

BTW nice meetin you Scott.


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Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: schwalby on October 05, 2010, 02:55:33 PM
There were some people that went onto the rocks that told the spotters they had a locker or two but once they were stuck somewhere and were told to turn the locker on the driver said that the lockers were not "working" or "broken".


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: OldYellowXJ on October 05, 2010, 07:20:09 PM
I would like to see the format of the rock garden returned to that of last year, with three different courses. This year went from dirt road, to dirt road with rocks, to almost impossible for most Jeeps. Not only did the lines move far faster last year, you were still able to have jeeps moving when one was stuck.

I understand that staging the waiting Jeeps between the crowd and the rocks was an issue, but have them come around the backside like they did this year.

Honestly I think my Jeep would have made it over those two large slabs of rock marking the transition from "medium" to "extreme" had I just positioned myself a little to the right.

I didn't lie to the spotter though, I was on 34's with limited slip in the rear.

I'm sorry to all of you who were forced to watch someone push the limits of their rig. That is the kind of thing that makes a show like the Great American Jeep Rally worth attending though.

For reference here is the Jeep I was driving:

(http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz204/rasco2002/2010%20GAJR/DSC_1204.jpg)


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: Scott Daigle on October 05, 2010, 07:58:57 PM
You all need to air down!  :P

I'm not going to make excuses for anything, I think the event was great. I may be a little biased though.  ;)

We had to build this course in two days (mostly just Saturday) do to all the rain they got in the last week. Short on time, dealing with the fairgrounds and their dislike of our rocks we did what we could and hoped for the best. Remember this is not an event with some wicked big budget, we're not subsidized or a part of Chrysler. We're all volunteers, we can only do so much.

Having said that, with all of you spending your hard earned money at the gate and with our raffles we are building our budget every year and hope to improve these things we're talking about. This year we lacked an excavator and didn't have enough money to rent one. Maybe next year we will be able to and build the garden the way you all like with multiple lines.

Your suggestions do not go unheard!


Thanks!


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: OldYellowXJ on October 05, 2010, 08:02:02 PM
I think airing down in my case would have made it worse, drivers side was resting on the slider  as it was! :lol:



Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: Scott Daigle on October 05, 2010, 08:07:38 PM
*whoops, I did it again. edited your post by accident. fixed.

This is a topic for a tech thread but, In all my years of wheeling I have never seen a case where airing down for rocks doesn't help big time. Sliders are made for sliding.  ;)


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: Blown7 on October 06, 2010, 06:44:57 AM
If next year you come over to Woodstock or even Brooklyn Fairground (Brooklyn's set up for truck pulling)
these guys will feed you good

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Woodstock-CT/Butts-Western-Beef-Bar-B-Que/109057395796693


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: schwalby on October 06, 2010, 11:19:31 AM
Not trying to stop the input on the rock course but any additional feed back on the other areas? Food, eating areas, raffle area, RC area, Helicopter, DJ, parking, front gate, goodie bags, vendors, vendor layout, bathrooms, bouncy house. Any ideas for things we can add?


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: Carl Mc on October 06, 2010, 01:57:22 PM
I'll agree with OldYellowXJ, ".....rock garden returned to that of last year, with three different courses. This year went from dirt road, to dirt road with rocks, to almost impossible for most Jeeps......" Watching (virtually) everyone get stuck, I didn't even try. I'm on 33's, locked / LS but there was no way I felt comfortable getting in line for that. Not complaining, just giving feedback that you asked for

The helicopter rides were AWESOME!! Definitely want them back next year

Being on the other side of the raffle table, I had a chance to get some feedback from people. Based on that feedback, I think there a couple options that should be considered for the kids toys drawings. One option, have distinct boxes and draws for the kids toys. This would have avoided some negative experiences. As it was, there was one box for all kids raffle tickets and people had to accept what was assigned, once a number was drawn. With some toys obviously geared for a boy or girl, it was inevitable that some people wouldn't be happy. Another option would be a first number drawn / first choice, with more kids drawings throughout the day. Maybe every 30 minutes

And I'd look at having more items drawn throughout the day, for the "bigger kids" toys. This could help alleviate the 3 PM crush

HUGE THANKS to the crew that worked so hard to put this all together!

I thought overall this years GAJR was awesome and look forward to next year. And kudos to you, asking for feedback. That's the only way to improve it


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: skibum on October 06, 2010, 03:16:40 PM
We had a great time!  Hats off to the organizers for a great event.  That said, we do have a few comments....

1)  The DJ was a little annoying (trying to be PC here) and we heard similar comments from a lot of people in the audience.

2)  The Rally is in desperate need of a Jeep swap meet.

3)  Categories for the Show and Shine were odd.  90% of the Jeeps in the parking lot were competing for one trophy.  The full size winner was competing against himself (apparently he won last year too).  The Military winner also had very little competition.  How about Best Antique, Best Military, Best Beater, Best Mall Crawler, Best CJ, Best YJ, Best TJ, Best JK, Best Cherokee or GC, and finally Best in Show?

4)  Echo what everybody else said regarding the rock crawl.........too many participants with exaggerated ideas of what they and their rigs were capable of.

5)  Short trail ride (similar to Topless Day) would add hugely to the Rally.

Just my .02.  Take it for what it's worth.  :)


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: mrfreakinwhite on October 06, 2010, 04:40:37 PM
Helicopter further from antique parking.
We were lucky for the previous rain to minimize dust this year.

Thanks to everyone that worked hard to put this together.


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: 90XJay on October 07, 2010, 12:32:13 PM
was nice to see alot of vendors this year.  my only complaint was the obvious one with the garden and it was mostly an issue bc people over estimated what their rigs could do.  Was real neat that last year even had the obstacle course for stockers and the differant rock gardens for classes.


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: NelsonATC on October 08, 2010, 05:22:12 PM
No rally t-shirt?


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: schwalby on October 08, 2010, 05:29:10 PM
Last year ATJ helped us a lot with the t-shirts and they didn't do well at all with them. We didn't ask if they would do it again because of that reason. Next year is the 10th anniversary so we will have t-shirts one way or another. We are working on a few other methods to produce them with out have the quality suffer but reduce the costs on making them.

Edit: I don't want it to sound like ATJ did a bad job or the quality was bad it was that no where near enough people bought shirts in order to make selling them worth while.


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: DOUG on October 11, 2010, 04:47:05 PM
Keep in mind this was my first GAJR since it left Mass.

Helicopter was awesome!!
 Club booths were lacking, as someone said, even unmanned.
Announcements could not be heard throughout the fairgrounds.
Signs along the roads leading to the fairgrounds. Even off the highway at the exit.
Possible to get more big name vendors? (Quadratec, 4WD Hardware, etc...)
Golf carts, or quads for those needing quick transportation throughout the fairgrounds.
Food was OK, typical fair fare. (had worse, certainly have had better)
Raffles would run smoother if drawn throughout the day, have the results board out in front of the tent, less crowded in the tent that way.
I've heard mention of a swap meet/flea market area for next year. I'll jump on the commitee for that. (if it happens)
I was thinking, when parking Jeeps, wouldn't it be cool if we parked all CJs together, all TJs together, etc? Logistically impossible, but it would be cool. 8)



Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: mightymeglet on October 12, 2010, 08:19:45 AM
I don't think Quadratec and 4WD want to travel, we can try to let them know we are growing and next year is going to be the 10th year.

The parking thing would be great to have TJ's together and CJ's and YJ's ect. but people like you(Doug CJ8) and Kelly(TJ) might want to park together, or different clubs want to park together. That's why it was done the way it was this year, that if you showed up together you'd be able to park together.


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: Scott Daigle on October 12, 2010, 09:01:50 AM
4WD hardware sponsors the rally, they sent us a winch to raffle off.  Also, we would rather promote the local vendors on the local level while at the same time promoting the national guys through the raffles and in the program.

A couple people have mentioned club booths and their makeup. We give clubs a spot, electric if they need it. It's up to them how many people man it or what type of recruiting tactics they use. If they want to park a rig there and put some fliers on it, that's their choice. Many times the clubs active members are volunteering for the Rally, this equals an empty booth. Again, their choice. We appreciate their helping the Rally.


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: Blown7 on October 18, 2010, 07:31:32 AM
Any links to pictures??


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: smokinsilverrt on February 09, 2011, 02:26:08 PM
this was my first rally this year it was a good setup.as a voulenteer i can tell you the rti ramp and rock crawl area got crazy.if there was any way to seperate the 2 attractions that would aleviate some major traffic.as for the rock pile i was a spotter and let me tell you some of the issues of people getting stuck were purely the drivers issue for not listening and not being accurate of what they have in the rig.the pile was nice but a lil bit extreme for most jeeps there.most of the people were good nice and listened and some were arrogant knew everything and didnt wanna listen to the many experienced spotters and ended up getting stuck, but i think it was a great day


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: schwalby on February 09, 2011, 03:27:19 PM
As always thank you for the feedback.

I know we would love to separate the rock crawl and RTI area but unfortunately we are really limited for space that we are allowed to use. We could move the RTI area further back towards the red barn but that would separate it from the rest of the event. It also can get fairly wet over there so that would be a last minute move the day before the Rally.

Glad to hear you had fun though. I am going to guess you are with Jon Fund so if you want to help again be sure to get in touch with Mike and let him know. If you are not with Jon Fund send an email to Evelyn at eve @ jeeprally.org, she is organizing all volunteers this year.


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: smokinsilverrt on February 09, 2011, 04:29:29 PM
im tim with deepwoods and summit.scott d recruited me


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: DOUG on February 09, 2011, 04:41:48 PM
There is no Scott D here...LOL

im tim with deepwoods and summit.scott d recruited me


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: smokinsilverrt on February 09, 2011, 04:44:04 PM
scott diagle sorry :P


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: DOUG on February 09, 2011, 04:52:05 PM
LOL...I knew who you meant Tim.

scott diagle sorry :P


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: mightymeglet on February 09, 2011, 05:04:52 PM
There are actually two Scott D's on here.


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: Scott Daigle on February 09, 2011, 07:39:52 PM
LOL...I knew who you meant Tim.

scott diagle sorry :P

Hey, it's Daigle.

Welcome Tim! I'll fix your account so that you can access the super secret areas. ;)


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: mightymeglet on February 09, 2011, 08:11:54 PM
LOL...I knew who you meant Tim.

scott diagle sorry :P

Hey, it's Daigle.

Welcome Tim! I'll fix your account so that you can access the super secret areas. ;)

Yea I just let him in because he was all whiny he could not vote in my poll. I don't have the powers to give him access to anything, but ban, muahahahahahahahha!


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: smokinsilverrt on February 09, 2011, 08:19:01 PM
man i misspelled it sorry.oh i love super secret stuff! oh and i will be bringing 2 jeeps this year!


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: Scott Daigle on February 09, 2011, 08:28:08 PM
There are actually two Scott D's on here.

There is? (where is my delete button)


Title: Re: 2010 Feedback
Post by: mightymeglet on February 09, 2011, 08:46:10 PM
$fab is a Scott D as well. We have the NH Scott D w/o a Jeep and the Ma Scott D w/o a Jeep.  :P